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If you want to understand why I increasingly moved towards the main criterias of 1) primary motivation and 2) gender dysphoria presence and its intensity, look no further than the Reddit thread below (which was considerably longer). Apparently, granular definitions depend on who you talk to.

Fundamentally you want to target a peaceful and distress-free life. After that call yourself what you like. I stick to the term gender variance as being at the top of the tree to cover all expression and identity outside societal norm which increasingly sits on a bed of sand.

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Q: Why are crossdressers under the trans umbrella?

So I'm cishet and I saw crossdressers as a part of the trans umbrella, why? 

I thought to be under the umbrella your gender doesn't match your biological sex, but that doesn't hold up with all crossdressers. 

If a cis man puts on a dress but still wants to be called a man then his gender matches his biological sex. 

I'm not too well-versed on this type of stuff which is why I'm asking.

A: It's mostly a history thing when people inside and outside the community lumped all gender nonconforming people together with trans people. Personally I consider cross dressers welcome and accepted allies in trans spaces, but not under the trans umbrella

A: I will say that also that being a crossdresser can eventually lead you to the conclusion that you’re trans. That’s how my egg cracked 

A: I don’t think cross dressers generally are considered to be under the trans umbrella. If a cis person cross dresses that doesn’t make them any flavor of trans unless their gender actually differs from their assigned gender at birth.

A: Crossdressers are not considered trans. Historically the term transgender was a broader term for anyone who was gender nonconforming, including crossdressers and nonbinary people, while the term transsexual was used for binary trans people who physically transitioned. That changed over the years and transgender was used only for people who identify as another gender than what they were assigned. Meaning transgender now includes nonbinary and binary trans people, but not cis crossdressers or gender nonconforming people and transsexual is considered an outdated term now.

A: Long ago trans activist here. 

Once upon a time, we considered CDs to be “transgender, but cissexual”. When we lost transsexual as a word, we lost cissexual as well. Honestly I don’t miss TS much but I do miss CS, especially as it let us distinguish between cisgender and cissexual privilege. 

I transitioned in those days and still consider crossdressers/GNC people to be tg if they want the identity.

A: Cis crossdressers aren’t trans. They may be welcome in some of the same communities, but they absolutely aren’t trans. 

The same as cis drag artists. They aren’t trans. It’s a costume, a performance, they take it all off at the end of their session. It’s a different persona they put on for fun. 

My transition was because it was medically necessary. Being trans doesn’t tend to be a fun thing that people pick up as a hobby.

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